Following the Whisper with Anna Twinney

Life coach and horse whisperer Anna Twinney joins host Leah McIntosh to share her background and how she helps women through the language of horses.

Episode Key Points:
Anna's educational background in horse behavior. [01:00]
From law enforcement officer to her, it might be me moment. [06:15]
How horses help you. [11:30]
Anna's relationship with her sister. [14:00]
The attraction to horses. [21:15]
Horses are broken down to be built back up. [25:30]
The human experience. [37:45]

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Following the Whisper with Anna Twinning Transcript

[00:00:00] Leah McIntosh: Welcome to it might be me podcast. I'm your host, Leah McIntosh who are here to help you understand that on the other side of that pain and trauma is your transformation. There may be some limiting beliefs, negative emotions and private struggles that have led you to having more. It might be. I'm here to help you learn to adapt let that because we are created to be limitless.

My hope is with each episode, you've move free and understood. Willing to accept that. Although some of our past decisions landed us in a place of uncertainty. We are only one decision away from living our best lives. Now let's go.

Hey, Hey. Hey everyone. Leah here and I've got a guest with me today, Anna Twinning. She is [00:01:00] a life coach and horse whisper. How are you today? 

Anna Twinning: I feel particularly good today. Leah particularly inspired and particularly good. 

Leah McIntosh: So tell us a little bit about you. 

Anna Twinning: Yes. It depends on which hat you want me to put on at any one time, because I am a horse whisperer and what that really means.

Not only of course, do I listen to horses, but what it really means is the fact that I can capture the nuance and the body [00:01:30] language of the horse. So I'm an equine specialist behaviorist and it means. 30 40 years of study of looking at the herd dynamics, but her behavior capturing the whisper of the course, meaning in the eyes and what every single nuance means.

But as a horse whisper as well, you're making sure you educate the people. You've got to love the humans. And so it's bringing awareness to your own body language, your own energetic connection and bringing authenticity, meaning alignment to the body, mind, [00:02:00] spirit, to everything. Particularly special with horses is that the horses do not lie.

And in a way, if you put a person in front of a horse, no other species can do this. And they're reading the body language and they're masters at all three they're masters at body language, masters at energy and masters at telepathy. And so when you're in front of the holes and they become the best coach possible.

For people to, to show up ultimately to show up. Now, show your strengths, [00:02:30] your weaknesses, you’re in alignment, um, being in alignment and also being out of alignment with that. What do I do? I'm a horse whisperer. I'm an animal communicator. And that means I talk to all species, little and lodge. It doesn't matter if they're reptiles wild domestic.

I talk to them and if people aren't sure about land, I fly one of the worlds. I am cooling by veterinarian’s sanctuaries and rescues by guardians. And I'm six months [00:03:00] booked in advance. So it's not something that we kind of shy away from or things that's a little bit, we were in fact, it's the country. It's the way of the future.

And I believe also a doctor of the future because we can get straight to the horse's mouth straight to the dog's mouth cat's mouth and hear it from them directly. So all in all, you put the horse whispering with the animal. I'm a life coach. 

Leah McIntosh: I had just learned so much. Uh, and I think the horse thing [00:03:30] that's, that's amazing.

I grew up in Kansas and I had a great uncle who had horses, but I was in the city. So it was very few and far between that. We got to interact with the world. But I always loved going down there in the summer and being able to, we had a parade, um, being able to ride horseback. But yeah, I would have had no clue that the horses are that intelligent and that in tune.

Anna Twinning: And I, and I think they're not really [00:04:00] publicized that way because when you see a scientific paper, it might list the 10 most intelligent species so they can have on there, the Raven and the pig. And I always come back with who wrote this scientific paper because horses have been around. 54 50 5 million years.

They've been so versatile, electron command into war and out of war and saved backside in a war. They were still utilized in farming. There's a top performance individual [00:04:30] in the world and they've moved over into healing. So they're so diverse. And host is if they can survive us, honestly, they're here on the planet before us with us and they can survive.

They're permanently one of the most intelligent spaces. And if the tests were done correctly, they would be on that page. But if we look at it test, for example, do they see in colors? Yes. Can they identify shapes? Absolutely. They can. Can they understand the English language up to a thousand words or more, but the Tuesdays, if [00:05:00] you go above all of that, and you think outside of the box and you start to look at what else is capable of doing in life coaching.

People will pantomime what's going on for you. They can pantomime. If somebody has an addiction, pantomime, if you're grieving pantomime, what your career path is going to be. If you ask the right questions, it’s not just about the horse, Leah, you know, if you put a person in, for example, in an arena or round pen with a horse and you took the facilitator away, perhaps [00:05:30] a different miracle could happen the whole good frightened stock, the land of Israel, or indeed I find out their limitations and their loves, but it really, for me means we bring the land in.

So you've got to have the right. The right facilitator and the right horse. And it's the combination of all of these that make them incredible life coaches.

Leah McIntosh: Yeah. It's my mind was just kind of blown. I would've thought that they would be high up there on the list of [00:06:00] intelligent animals anyway, so yeah, that's, that's interesting to hear that they're not included.

Right. So my next question would be for you. Is what was your, my, it might be me moment that got you down this path. 

Anna Twinning: It will be what people have expected indeed. When they listened to a podcast, think what it is. And despite the controversies around what I'm about to say, My heart was in my last career. I was a law [00:06:30] enforcement officer in Britain of places, all places where there are no firearms.

And so what it means is you enter through your communication skills. You've got to learn body language incredibly well because as a female belonged, nonetheless, that does make it because I'll tell you I'm going to go off on a story. And it's an awful funny story, but in my younger days, when I was 21 and I went to this incident, it was a pub fight.

And in [00:07:00] America you don't really have pups. You have balls, but no, I remember walking in there and they clearly did not think I was a police officer. And they come in and they start cheering and laughing and that probably the fight ends and they're looking over and they start singing and I cannot sing for the life of me, but they go off and I'm looking at it horrified.

They think I'm a stripper.

And then look, here we go. Oh my goodness. I'm real. I'm real. I mean, now [00:07:30] like differently, but in those days it was enough to break up the fight. But suffice to say that you're going in reading body language, all you have is you. I became a specialist of taking care of me that way. And my intention was always to take care of the people, be a voice for the underdog, be a voice for the people in particular women and children.

And because also in those days, women were put into areas and like, they are really now, but they were put in areas where they were best [00:08:00] fitted. And so I was going to. For example, child abuse and so on and, and victims, domestic violence and so on because I was a female doesn't mean I was necessarily the best at it, but I was put there and I was bloody good at it.

But with that, it wasn't taken into account how it affects you. It affected me. Greatly. And nobody had explained in those days that the mind cannot discern and decipher the difference between imagination and reality. So my mind conjure all [00:08:30] of these things that my body believed had happened to me. I wanted to rise above that as I still get emotional, wanting to rise above it, to go, you know what?

I'm blessed with a fairly strong body. I'm blessed with a strong mind, and I should be able to do this, but it broke me. It was one thing that broke. It was one thing and meant mentally and emotionally, that broke me in that alignment with that. I had a nice head-on car accident. So there was no, I just think it's a two [00:09:00] by four.

It was really a bus blindsiding me in a 60 mile an hour, head on car accident in the middle of winding streets, that much snow. And it wasn't my fault. The car came on the other side of the road to my side on abandoned. It was unavoidable. My dog was in the car. He was a German shepherd. I remember leaning back over the shoulder.

We were driving the other side, then America leaning back, trying to save him. And luckily he, it was like a pillow. He was fine. And didn't have any injuries, [00:09:30] but combine the two of finding out that you cannot sustain the lifestyle you had and pushing back right to the end to say, I'm going to stay with a head-on car accident that I needed.

Physio therapy. And, and, and that every single road led to a sabbatical with that sabbatical Camy life change and their life change was that I packed a suitcase from UK. I was following the call of the holes. I ended [00:10:00] up in California at one of the most famous horse was present in the world called Monte Roberts.

And I was there at the right time, the right place, which meant I was there to support in the setup of the school that hadn't existed. But to bring it forward with that came a chute sacrifice a sacrifice of a career, a husband, a whole, a pop, a home and not knowing if I could ever get back to the country, because when you're applying for your green card, [00:10:30] you can't leave the country.

And so there lived out of this suitcase for years and years. In pursuit of a dream. 

Leah McIntosh: Oh my goodness. 

Anna Twinning: Tell you all of my life and this little nutshell to go. Yes. With sexually abused women. And yes, I dealt with that, but every line went to the horse to say, you know what, I'm taking a sabbatical. It was before my time.

And they stopped that the sabbatical stated I wanted to help law [00:11:00] enforcement officers, first responders with PTSD, and I wanted to help victims because they don't get enough help. I became numbers and it was horrifying to me to go, all right, there's one called often another call after another cool one can never help them enough.

And here they are getting a crime report, but not the hell. It wasn't a story. It was their life. So I wanted to go in an iron horse, whispering to bring it back to the British police force, but to also bring it back to victims and say, you know what, let's help [00:11:30] you. Let's help you get in touch with your inner self.

Let's help the horses reflect you and heal you. They can perform miracles, but I was before my time way before my time.

Leah McIntosh: Well, and with that, like it's a lot to unpack. Cause you, you gave up essentially your life that you had built. Did you have any support system at all, or just going it alone? 

Anna Twinning: The little tearful bit?

Um, it doesn't matter if you've [00:12:00] processed it come a long way. It takes your right back there to go. My husband then supported me. He packed the bags and said, you need to follow your dreams. Although in my eyes, my response was in the eyes of God, we're married and I cannot follow my dream. And he basically packed up the house and said, you need to go, you belong there.

So the support was the biggest support you can imagine to say, you can't see, and you're going to get pushed and you're going to fly [00:12:30] so incredible support. And yet when you're on the receiving end, you go shit. I'm living out of a suitcase with no money. No way to get back home. I'm shutting the door on the career.

Cause this career sabbatical was just for a short period of time. And then it was a matter of that's doors slam shut. Now what, and for the first few years not getting compensated because you're, you're interning a big thing in America, right? A big thing to intern and there's different kinds of compensation.

And hindsight gives you [00:13:00] 2020 vision because in hindsight you got, you were given the best gift in life, a new life path. You were given a career path when you're going through. As a groom, grooming horses, leaving an incredible career behind two grew horses. No, my father, no disappointed. He's looking at it going something's happened.

She lost it and he wouldn't talk to me. My mother was a Methodist minister, so she's in the place to go. I can't believe you're doing this. She supported in her own [00:13:30] way. And my sister, who is a fundamental Christian couldn't align with anything that I did. And so on top of, on top of living out of a suitcase, not getting paid and, and having a rough time getting over a relationship that was going well, losing my career and my home and my horse and my dog, my family was unable to stand by me at the time.

And my sister still really hasn't spoken to me in over two decades. Oh my goodness. So [00:14:00] short answer would be that support wasn't in the way one would stay. The support was, I guess, I guess the only support I really had was the skirt to support and to find my way to go. There's a bigger picture here that I couldn't understand at the time.

And to look back to go, your husband has released you into freedom. The biggest support you can have. And if you follow the spirit. Okay. And if you follow the core of horse, but you don't necessarily know that when you're going through 

Leah McIntosh: it. [00:14:30] Exactly. And then, you know, were you close to your sister?

Eventually? 

Anna Twinning: Very different. She is the older one, not me, but she's very, very different in appearance and personality and in life's goals. So I guess the cool being would be celebrated. Yeah. But the rest, when, when somebody believes that animal communication is from the devil and not realizing that animal communication, giving a [00:15:00] voice to the animals for the good of mankind, it's quite hard to be on the same page.

You know, and I can't believe that because for me, it's going through spirit. It's going through God. It's giving a voice to individuals in my opinion, with souls and my experience and knowledge with souls. And you're only doing good, right? You're you're changing lives. You're saving lives. There's nothing negative about it, a tool.

And then when you research it, it's in the Bible to boot. So there's [00:15:30] nothing that one could state is a bad thing. And yet it went above her or goes above. It goes above. I was going to go say to the alpha level, but it goes above her belief system. She can't sign up for that, 

Leah McIntosh: I guess just thinking about it from an outside view.

I don't know how you can make that jump to think that it would be demonic in any way. Uh, animals are spiritual beings as well. They have life [00:16:00] force. You know, created them as well. So yeah, that's a little confusing,right? 

Anna Twinning: So it's this thing of, and I can't speak about her beliefs, cause I don't know them because we never got that far, but it was simply when you look at it to go, there is life after death.

Okay. And if we're open enough, we can hear it and celebrate it. And there is an ability to talk to all like all life. I, we can talk telepathically from one human to another. Why would [00:16:30] we not be able to, to an animal, be it, see in pictures or feel emotions that are not our own. And there's such simplicity in the complexity of it to realize there's so much more to this than we are.

When we're younger or in schools.

Leah McIntosh: Yeah. Well, and I just think just on a basic level, I have two dogs that I just adore and I talked to them more than then. I talk to the humans in the house and they let me, you know, they, they know what I'm talking about. [00:17:00] And then I, I also look at dogs just in general. I'm a, I'm a dog person.

They can understand the language of whoever owns them. Yeah. So that intelligence. Is beyond, you know, anything that we can really comprehend. So, yeah, this is just, this is, this is super interesting to me because I never would have looked at, um, incorporating animals into life coaching, but I can completely [00:17:30] see it because, you know, like my dog's energy are amazing and I care for two differently abled individually.

And they, um, are they respond so well to them? Um, one of the guys had never been around animals and he was terrified initially of the dogs. Uh, but now he'll walk in and pet them and talk to him. Um, and when he doesn't want to be bothered, he tells him. Know, you know, 

[00:18:00] Anna Twinning: what breeds do you have? What breed are you attracted to?

Leah McIntosh: I have now, um, I have two miniature schnauzers. Yeah, the little ones. And I, we had German shepherds growing up. We, um, yeah, I loved German shepherds. We had a German shepherd named queen, uh, and we just adored her. She was. One of my favorite dogs. So it was devastating when she passed away. And I, if I, if I had my choice, I'd have another dog and I would want to [00:18:30] get a German shepherd.

But my husband's like, we share that, that.

Anna Twinning: I had a German shepherd in England. So that guy I gave up was a German shepherd. And, um, it's it breaks your heart and I've also had people, oh, I couldn't do what you do. I couldn't give them up. I can't do what I do. I didn't choose to give them. I followed a calling and then they go, oh no, you made this choices.

I didn't make the choice. My body was collapsing emotionally, mentally, physically the choice had [00:19:00] been somewhat taken away. I could choose to stay and get good. Or I could choose to listen and be freed from that. And with it came a sacrifice. And so it was a harsh thing to let him go. And I miss him to this day.

Can't wait to be reunited at some point in time. And I adore the German shepherds intelligence and they have the loyalty, you know, unmatched loyalty. So, so each breed without going [00:19:30] off with breeds, cause you can't really do that. It depends on the personality on the individual, but there is something to be said about the breed and the German shepherd is loyal, intelligent, intelligent, incredible.

So everybody will have something, you know, be that, that they're fun. They're loving that they are. Um, playful that they're healers cause they're cuddling the person when they've lost some grieving. So some of them can take on certain roles and some can't, it would be too much for them. And y'all [00:20:00] have the dogs as healers for veterans and people in wheelchairs and emotional healers as well as cancer detector and so on.

So the dogs are particularly special. Here's the difference between the dog and the horse on, on life. No, don't be loyal to it. So, if you're trying to life, coach, they're just going to go. There's nothing wrong with Leah. I'm going to sit here, be really guarded. We're not going to show that she has issues where the horse would go, oh my God, she's [00:20:30] hiding something beyond that.

Smile. My God, she's nervous. And because she's nervous, I am. So the horse will never lie where the dog will go beyond loyalty to make sure what is it? Leah wants me to do, you know, I'm going to sit here and make sure nothing gets through because that's what Leah wants. So that's the difference between the predator and the prey and the dog and the holes.

There's a power in a horse. There's a huge power that will bring out honesty and truth that you cannot hide behind. 

Leah McIntosh: So I want to [00:21:00] talk a little bit more about your expertise when it comes to. You had mentioned to me earlier about wild horses. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. So tell me about that, because now I'm just completely intrigued.

Anna Twinning: I was drawn to them as soon as I hit the California and soil. One of the horses was a wild horse that I had and many attractions, and I've had lots of time to think about it. And one would be the way they're being managed. [00:21:30] And being taken off of their birthright is to have this land. And it does remind me of other situations.

Cause we're, we're really all immigrants in the United States. Doesn't mean if I am everybody else too, to a degree is right. So I look at it and go, oh my God, we've done this to so many people without getting into politics. We've done this to people and we still do, and we continue to, so there was this piece of fighting for the.

To go these animals, these horses have no lights here, their lands being [00:22:00] taken away for gas, water, ranching, overpopulation. They're losing that. Right. So let me fight for them. And then there's the sign of freedom there. The symbol of freedom for America, which is incredible. So there's something they possessed.

We want emotional freedom. We want the physical freedom. And then from a horse whispering standpoint, they are the Wikipedia of horsemanship. So if you imagine a course that you were. And the hours that would have been put in [00:22:30] for anybody to ride a horse is huge because they've gotta be made safe and formed grief and be up to handle novices through to professionals, et cetera.

So that's one thing, but the wild horse is like, like a Wolf in that sense, the Wolf is a Wald. Well, the wild horses wild. When they come in the frightened, they're going to go into flight fight or freeze and their ability to speak their language is far beyond anything you can imagine. So we've got a [00:23:00] normal, normal horse, domestic horse.

Now put a wild one day, a hundred to a thousand fold. It's going to be exaggerate. That means as soon as you walk towards them, they recognize who you are. Your intentions, your thoughts, your mood. So you better be the best you can be. They stretch your limits for me as an instructor and somebody that has gentled a lot of them, I've got to read that horse before anybody could read them, get the verbal piece out.

So the instruction out of my mouth, three to five seconds before it [00:23:30] happens, that's a skill putting veterans geriatrics. If you want golden years, youngsters, my youngest has been 16, my oldest in her eighties with wild horses to match them correctly. And to afford this first opportunity for the wild horse.

It means that we're bridging the gap between domestication and wild and why not have a linguist come in. Here's somebody that speaks their language that can afford to buffer, support them in their own [00:24:00] language and bring them into our. It'd be like having a translator for anybody that speaks another language.

If they're coming in from Mexico or any other place that you say, here's somebody that speaks your language, they're going to share the culture with you. They're going to buy from the bits. They can make it easier to know what you can expect because this culture so different than your own. Well, here I am at Ashley's coming in to go.

I'm going to show you what's expected from you now in order to save them, they've got to be a little bit more gentle. Nobody wants a wild, wild horse. And [00:24:30] so if we can help domesticate them in a way that they can understand, they're more likely going to be placed. And if they can have a home, they can't go back.

They can't go back in the wall that door's closed, so they can only go forward. And that home has to be the right home. And so the more that this horse understands. The better home they're going to get. And that's where I come in. Their first impression counts. We don't need to rope them and choke them down to unconsciousness.

We don't need to [00:25:00] fight them first or put them into shoots or rodeo. Then it's only, we bridged the gap in a way that they understand, and they're really gentle. They want it for free. They don't want to fight. They're more frightened of us than we will be of them. Even if they're 1,500 pounds. And so the gentle approach is the way to go.

Instead of taking that individual and putting them into our world, like a square peg in a round hole, we're going towards them to say, I'm going to watch you. And I'm going to [00:25:30] adjust to your needs instead of creating a structure, like light going into the army, the military to go, we're going to break you down to build you up.

It's what we do with horses. They're broken down to be built up. The idea that what I'm saying is I see you for who you are. And we're going to bring out your full potential. I don't want to squelch you. I want to change you in that way. I want to introduce you to our world and see you and bring out the full potential, not break you.

So, so it inspires me to help keep the freedom of [00:26:00] life and inspires me to bring the spirit out in that wild animal. And it inspires me to help people to truly understand them and not be ill-equipped and labeling them incorrect. So your wild horse will go to the slaughter if they're angry or if they can't be gentle, we have over a hundred thousand tosses is going to slaughter in the United States every year.

And they're misunderstood. They're broken down that discarded they [00:26:30] used. And the more we can educate people to say, if you speak their language, it doesn't need to end this way. And if we have correct breeding policies, it doesn't need to end this. We can be humane and gentle and realize that they, they too have families and they too have a language and they do have hopes, desires, and dreams, and they utilize like livestock and there's no need, we are so intelligently.

You would think as a first world country, we would know better, [00:27:00] but we're acting ridiculous, um, written andintelligent. 

Leah McIntosh: And I think as a sense of entitled. Because we can, we will, because my next question was like, well, why are there so many wild horses? You know, how, how that happen. And now, I mean, you just answered that the good news is they, this is their land.

Anna Twinning: And it would be like, if I compare it to the native Americans, these horses were here before we were so with the native Americans. And so what they've [00:27:30] done is they've put people into reservations and they've put the horses into BLM land bureau of land mines. So both, uh, being managed, the BLM puts a head there's fish and game.

If people are going to jump on this there's fishing game, there's BLM, there's tribal horses, all managed in different ways and the horses have an allocated quantity of land. And when the numbers exceed that they call them, they take them off. So basically it's, um, it's a raising [00:28:00] program. Then they put them in holding pen.

And we have tens of thousands over 40,000 forces in holding pen. It's like a concentration camp. They're waiting for their number to die instead of managing them correctly, where they don't breed that, putting them in holding pens, like concentration camps. And so the management is poor. It's outdated, it's unnecessary, it's unkind.

And the truth is the answer's there. Now we've gone that way. The answer's there with birth. Just do bloody birth [00:28:30] control and the numbers, the horses can stay wild. They can be a tourist attraction and they can live their lives, not harming anybody and staying wild. And that's the ideal outcome here is that they stay well.

Leah McIntosh: Well, because that's their natural state one, you know why I bring them in and domesticate them if they don't need to be right. That I hate the, the idea that they're put in bonded. Because we simply can't figure out a way to, [00:29:00] like you said, do birth control, and you said some, some things a little bit earlier, I guess I'm going to backtrack the way you explained it about meeting the, the wild horse where they're at and accepting them where they're at.

I can totally see the correlation to being a life coach with that. You know, you want to meet your clients where they're at and you want to respect their model of the world. And meet them where they're at and allow them to heal [00:29:30] from that place. And so I can see the correlation and I think it's, you know, it's great, especially the more you explain about the horses, um, you know, just blown away that there's so many out there, here for one that are being slaughtered.

Anna Twinning: Yearly that's, that's really upsetting, um, because we're uneducated. So I took a role as an educator to say, you know what? [00:30:00] I'm not sure if the petitions and stuff like that help, but educating minds helps to say that are sensing things that they have family groups that, you know, this goes beyond having a horse in one acre that you never touch.

And you just Chuck hay too, that they want the interaction. If we're going to take care of them, we've got to be the best stewards we can. And to be a steward of a horse, a dog, a child, you've got to educate yourself. And we talked about breeds earlier. You don't take a German shepherd and put them in an [00:30:30] apartment and never exercise.

And exercise, meaning physically, mentally, emotionally, they need more, you could have a potential making this up, potentially get average or hour. And they're more conducive into a small home with less exercise that you've got to not go on the breed to go, oh, I fancy that little colored one, or I want this one because boys had them, you've got to have the right lifestyle to accommodate these pups.

And the same here. You've got to understand that the horses can't be kept alone. I always get a little [00:31:00] dramatic, you know, when somebody's off. For example, this is dramatic. They say, well, can't a horse. Just be with a pig or can't they be with a goat? Actually. They see where they go. And I look at them and go, well, what would you want to live with?

Do you just want to live with a Guinea pig? Do you just want to live with chickens? No. You want your own kind. We're not asking you to marry a different species. So it's the same for them that every species needs their own kind. They tend to be pack and herd animal. And there's no substitute to, to a degree, right?

It's individual by [00:31:30] individual basis. So meeting them where they're at is a huge deal. It does correlate with people because we're to fit a certain style we're indoctrinated early on, and we will never walk in somebody else's moccasins. All we can do is have the compassion. You can't walk in their moccasins.

Right? We think we do,but we don't. 

Leah McIntosh: Right. You know, you can relate to some of the things that they've done, but you're right. Everybody's story is different. [00:32:00] Um, there can be similarities and you can empathize with things, but at the end of the day, we're all individuals. And so same goes for animal. You know, you don't, you don't really know.

And the horses, I'm just thinking when I grew up or growing up, I can't remember the lady's name, but I know she lived out far about 40 minutes from my hometown and we would go out [00:32:30] there and she had a few horses, never got to ride them, but she just allowed them just to walk around and they were so.

Friendly. That was the one thing I remembered the most about them. We'd be out there on the trampoline and they would walk right up to the frame Burlingaine and, you know, I was expecting. Yeah. Um, and so they, I was never scared of horses at all, but I do know, like when I was working with, uh, differently able [00:33:00] children, that was a big thing.

Was them using horses in their therapy. And I, like I said, I just never took the time to get educated about how, you know, uh, horses could read us that. Well, I had no, no idea. So this has been very informative for me. 

Anna Twinning: They, they go into the reading and you can have the life coaching. And beyond that layer, I am, I've been teaching energy healing for about 20 years and we bring the horses.

[00:33:30] And it's next month, actually, then I imagine in Wyoming doing the energy healing for the horses and took it to the horses, but in doing so, when we do the energy healing, I take the massage tables out there and the horses will come and join in. So this goes beyond coaching of pantomiming. It gets into the state where the horses will know where to breathe in positive energy to release what no longer serves the individual on that team.

We documented some of it, you can't always do it cause I cause I'm teaching or [00:34:00] you're in the moment, but we got to, I got some pictures and I put some of the things on YouTube for people to realize that it's not the norm and to see there's it was a really cool and I taught years ago, the woman in Sweden that came to the class and she was in a real challenge.

She could barely move, barely walk, but she got out to do this energy healing on a horse and you can see how it. Can't hold her and halfway through, she goes, she looks at me and speaks English and [00:34:30] she says, may I sit down? I said, I'm so sorry. You can't sit down and hear with the was because one, I didn't know the halls too.

It's too dangerous. And I could see her getting tired, but she didn't want to leave. So she stood there and it was her knees holding her up as she's giving Reiki and this horse was unkind and goes behind her and starts to thank her by doing an energy healing session. And all of it was caught on video and I put it up for others to see that these [00:35:00] guys has so much empathy, that a horse reciprocated.

It's incredible to know that not only did she, this may receive, she gave back and that's, that's just immeasurable. 

Leah McIntosh: Yeah, it is. That is almost mind blowing that, you know, they were that into it. Yeah, to be able to tell. And I know, you know, just with the animals that I've owned, they have [00:35:30] a sense of discernment and intuition when you're not at your best, you know, my dogs now they will sit at the door and one time, if they know that I'm.

A hundred percent. And so it's like, well, how do you even know this? 

Anna Twinning: You haven't seen me all day or anything, but yeah, you can get three dogs in a, in a family and one might go, oh, I can't deal with her right now. And then another white. Oh my God. I've got to be with [00:36:00] her and help her. And then another one might say, it's time to play.

Let me see if I can get her out of a funk. And that's the glory just like having children. The, not the dogs or children, but just like having children, they've got their own personalities and they'll deal with a situation in their own way. And that's amazing, magical, because then you can figure out who you're going to be with that moment.

Do I need to snap out of it? And sometimes you can't even help yourself. So the fact that, that, that was going to bother you to bring you out of that situation. That they're [00:36:30] incredible like that. I think everybody, yeah. Needs a dog.

Leah McIntosh: Um, yeah, I don't think there's really been a time that I haven't had a dog that I can recall. So, yeah. Um, and I, now my two dogs now have been. Two, probably best dogs besides queen, um, that I've ever had. And so I know, like they just bring so much joy to our whole family, especially [00:37:00] considering our therapeutic has been for our, our guys that are differently abled.

They can be. So in tune with. Their needs and things as well. So, so what piece of advice would you give the listeners who maybe can relate to some degree because you're right. Your, your story is definitely unique, but giving up a career that you loved and that your heart was in giving up a marriage, you know, giving up in all [00:37:30] into, for all intents and purposes, some of your family members.

When you look back at, what would, would you do anything different? 

Anna Twinning: It was funny later I went from a really good marriage to an abusive relationship and clearly built my beat myself up that way. And then eventually have a wonderful husband. So it's this thing of hindsight always gives us 2020 vision. And I do believe that God universe spirit, no matter how we want to do cool.

[00:38:00] This energy, if you want, or how we see the world. I do believe that our back is being had. And I do think that we're coming here for this human experience, whatever that means that we're spiritual beings, having a human experience to realize that when we look at. If we've listened, then it becomes, it becomes quite precious and it becomes clear to us.

I don't think he needs, what we can't say is fine. Site gives us 2020 vision and everything turns out well in the end, it doesn't [00:38:30] always honestly, and I've seen a ton of individuals where it hasn't because they haven't listened and listening, listening to the flow, listening to your heart, creating a marriage of the mind and the heart is a hugely important.

We can live between those two. And so for me looking back, I love that part of my life and I didn't let go quick enough cause I loved it. I love this part of my life even more and it's not making me sick. And I'm an international traveler. I [00:39:00] take the methods of awesome and shipped around the world. I take animal communication around the world.

We built my business around rescues and sanctuaries and everybody said, I'd fail. I haven't failed 13 years. Absolutely. I serve, I do save lives. I serve and with it, everything else flows. I love all of that to go. Okay. I listened to spirit and for me, spirit comes through in the form of wild animals. So I'll get wild animal messages to help me on my path to know what's [00:39:30] going on.

And I listened to that. The whole world has been opened up to me to realize that the truth is being shared through the animals. See whatever belief we had in childhood. It doesn't matter. Who told us, what did we tell ourselves? What did we repeat? It changes with animals because they're showing you all of this becomes the message to find the one.

And then here's another, you loved it. What my man is on the other side. What my Merlin taught me was to always have that [00:40:00] free mind and heart and spirit. And he'd go on walk about nothing could fence in him, set fence him in. He would reflect the piece of me that needed to never have my wings clipped and never be fenced in.

So he was full of freedom and desire. He was the best warrior I've ever met. He was 16 and a half when you past incredible. My other one, they're both Australian shepherd crosses my other one. Ali had [00:40:30] a tough life to begin. Five starts with homes that didn't work, but only was always excited to be alive.

Every day he woke up, he was happy to be alive. And I learned from him not to take life so serious. It's taking me a little bit longer to learn because every day I fail miserably at that to go and get that's important that I need to stress that I need to focus on, but all these messages always been, you know, take life with a little bit of a pinch of salt and enjoy it thoroughly.

So not only [00:41:00] the listeners take away from what I would say, I feel they can take away from what both of my dogs would be sharing with them too. And realize that. They're giving you a message the way they act in your world, the way they are around you, they're teaching you something just by that in itself.

Leah McIntosh: No, I never would have looked at the behaviors of, of my dogs, but when you just said that, like my little girl loves everybody. It doesn't matter who you [00:41:30] are. Gonna love on you. And, um, we'll look at her. It's like, you don't even know who this person is get over here, but that doesn't matter. 

Anna Twinning: Um, and if I'm looking at it, acceptance layer, you know, I see that and I would totally judge myself and I'd be humbled by her because here we are might say, Hey, I'm pretty good at unconditional level.

I don't judge people, you know? And I will say that. I say, I don't judge. I just. And I want to evaluate somebody to [00:42:00] know if I'm safe or not and what are their intentions. So I do that. And then you look at the dog to go, you're overthinking this. And so meaning I am, and I would be humbled by your pup to go yet.

It's still a long way to learn and go. She is acting in unconditional love. Yes she is. And it's possible. And she's basically teaching you, we can be unconditional and then they, they wait their whole lifetime for us to cotton on. That was the other thing they're so patient, you haven't learned it yet. 

Leah McIntosh: You haven't [00:42:30] worked it yet, but yeah, that, I mean, you just hit the nail right on the head.

She is unconditional love, just persona by day in and day out. And in my boy, he's just patient patient. Like when I look at how he, yeah. Patient there's, there's nothing that he's, he's not, he's not as friendly. You know, he's not a people person, but the patients that he has with me and everyone else in the house is [00:43:00] beautiful.

Yeah. It isn't when I'm, you know, I never would have looked at my animals as a way to learn, but you just open my eyes to the possibilities of what I'm seeing. Day in and day out from them. So thank you. 

Anna Twinning: That was to teach patients because again, we can measure ourselves in the sense for, I think I'm a patient person and then you look at them to go, oh my God, if he hears the ball, I'm no where near way he is.

And how [00:43:30] beautiful is that? Because with the patients he's showing you life can be nicer. Mice can be, life can be better without an expectation and we can simplify it to go. Well, he's more simple. Patsy's not, perhaps is more involved than we are and he's got age. He goes, just be patient. Look at it as a life through my eyes so much better than through our eyes. Him. 

Leah McIntosh: Yes. Cause I, I consider myself a patient [00:44:00] person, but he takes it to another level. So, so I'm like, okay, well there's still, I still have some work to do. And like you said, so how can the listeners find you on social media? 

Anna Twinning: Although it doesn't necessarily encompass my animal communication, the company, my company is called reach out to her.

And it was exactly that reaching out to meet them. So reach out to horses is the website. And then on [00:44:30] top of that, we are located in North Carolina at whispering feather farms. We've just moved here during the pandemic and offering a ton of different healing modalities and courses for people and their animals.

And on social media, it is my name either Anna 20 or reach out to horses. You'll find me there too.

Leah McIntosh: Awesome. Awesome. There might be listeners that would be interested in doing the energy healing with the horses. Yeah. [00:45:00] So thank you for coming on and sharing your expertise and definitely teaching me a lot of things.

Um, I definitely appreciate it. 

Anna Twinning: I love. And then that way we can send them to go use some patients. I love that, you know, and, and some things that could sometimes frustrate us. We flip that around. I love that about you and your loved them even more. And every time you do that, you're dropping into your heart. Even more, even that little bit [00:45:30] more that we think we can't.

So, yeah, there's, there's so much to learn from them.

Leah McIntosh: I appreciate coming on today.

 Anna Twinning: Thank you, Leah. 

Leah McIntosh: 

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